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projects:challenger604:drainmast [2019/09/27 03:38] dwheele [Found Relay K16] |
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| ====== Heated Drain Mast ====== | ====== Heated Drain Mast ====== | ||
| - | On the Challenger 604, the forward Drain Mast heater is electrically open. The symptoms reported by the crew are that the circuit breaker keeps popping. | + | On the Challenger 604, the crew reported |
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| ^Heated Drain Mast|115677-114|Electrofilm Mfg. Inc.| | ^Heated Drain Mast|115677-114|Electrofilm Mfg. Inc.| | ||
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| * Sent another RFQ to https:// | * Sent another RFQ to https:// | ||
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| + | Note that while this schematic page is excellent, what is absent from the drawing is that Pin B1 on the relay is actually connected to Pin c (lower case, with bar), which connects to " | ||
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| ===== Circuit Breaker ===== | ===== Circuit Breaker ===== | ||
| - | The relevant circuit breaker (probably not defective): 7274-11-7 1/2 Klixon, 7.5 amp. The schematic specifies that the expected draw is .96 amps. There are two Drain Masts. The forward was open, and the rearward was about 64 ohms (about 100 ohms expected). | + | The relevant circuit breaker (probably not defective): 7274-11-7 1/2 Klixon, 7.5 amp. The schematic specifies that the expected draw is .96 amps. There are two Drain Masts. The forward was open, and the rearward was about 64 ohms (about 100 ohms expected). |
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| + | **Galley Circuit Breakers** | ||
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| + | There is a panel of circuit breakers located to the forward part of the upper galley. The relevant circuit breaker for the Drain/Line Heater is mounted to the front in the same way as the others, and the output wire travels to the back via J22 (J25 is visible). Tracing the route of this wire was difficult. Found that it went to the relay panel located behind the Ice Box. | ||
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| ===== Solution ===== | ===== Solution ===== | ||
| - | Discovered | + | After multiple troubleshooting steps, discovered |
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| + | For the aircraft to be flyable, awaiting the acquisition of a replacement line heater, we disconnected the lead going to the line heater, and also clipped that wire near the point it connected to the heater, and removed the line heater. Tied back the lead with crimped-loop and zip-tied to wire bundle for safety. | ||
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| + | ^Testing|Tested by powering the aircraft, and resetting 7.5 circuit breaker. Jumpered Thermal Switch sensor to ground to activate relay (required because temperature was not below 40 degrees, and the aircraft is not in the air).| | ||
| - | For the aircraft to be flyable, we disconnected the lead going to the line heater, and also clipped that wire near the point it connected to the heater, and removed the heater. Tied back the lead with crimped-loop and zip tied to wire bundle. | + | ^Result|System seems stable, aft drain mast is obviously heated, measured by feeling |
| - | Powered the aircraft, resetting 7.5 circuit breaker. System seems stable, aft drain mast is obviously heated, measured by feeling it from outside. | + | ^Remaining Steps|We will need to acquire a replacement Forward Drain Mast, and Fill Solenoid Ribbon Heater, and install them.| |
| ===== Steps to the Solution, Narrative ===== | ===== Steps to the Solution, Narrative ===== | ||
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| Powered system. Disconnected connector Thermal Switch connector J31. Jumpered across the two pins. | Powered system. Disconnected connector Thermal Switch connector J31. Jumpered across the two pins. | ||
| - | Jumpered J31 connector pulls diode cathode to ground. | + | Jumpered J31 connector pulls diode cathode to ground. |
| - | Drain/Line Heater circuit | + | Drain/Line Heater circuit |
| - | Disconnected | + | Disconnected |
| Jumpered connector J31, Drain/Line Heater circuit break pops immediately. | Jumpered connector J31, Drain/Line Heater circuit break pops immediately. | ||
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| and because J103 (which has about 40 pins) is shown as connected to K16, and also to the Cabin Control Accessory Unit. | and because J103 (which has about 40 pins) is shown as connected to K16, and also to the Cabin Control Accessory Unit. | ||
| - | Circuit breaker only pops when relay K16 is activated. | + | Circuit breaker only pops when relay K16 is activated, an important fact. |
| - | Suspect J103 has damage around pins a, b, or c. Or Relay K16 has unused pin B1 grounded or is otherwise damaged. | + | [9/25/2019 conclusion] |
| David came today to help with the Challenger 604. | David came today to help with the Challenger 604. | ||
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| + | ==== Captain' | ||
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| + | The Pilots discovered that the circuit breaker **Galley Supply 1** was thrown. Photo shows the breaker in the thrown position, although it is hard to see. After some thought, it was concluded that this was caused by some troubleshooting on a previous session. This breaker apparently is upstream of the Galley Heaters, including the Drain Mast and Line Heaters. | ||
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| ==== Found Relay K16 ==== | ==== Found Relay K16 ==== | ||
| - | We looked at additional locations, including in the tunnel, and in the closet. While my brother | + | [9/ |
| - | was looking in the closet, I was bored and looked in some of the drawers. Noticed when looking | + | was continuing our search by looking in the closet, I rechecked |
| - | in the ice box that there was a panel with screws in the corners. We removed this, and the | + | relay panel was inside. |
| - | relay panel was inside. | + | |
| **Relay Panel Location** | **Relay Panel Location** | ||
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| - | But when we looked at the schematics, discovered that this | + | [9/ |
| - | is connected to a line heater. The schematic for the Drain Mast doesn' | + | is connected to a line heater. The schematic for the Drain Mast (above) |
| This probably accounts for the circuit breaker blowing. | This probably accounts for the circuit breaker blowing. | ||
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| - | **Schematic** showing wiring for Line Heaters. The heater which was shorted to the bolt is called "FILL SOLENOID" | + | **Schematic** showing wiring for Line Heaters. The heater which was shorted to the bolt is called "FILL SOLENOID" |
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| 207 watts | 207 watts | ||
| - | Pin C (originally thought was one line heater, but schematic shows various line heaters) | + | Pin C (originally thought was just one line heater, but schematic shows various line heaters). These values indicate the short, the subject of this narrative. |
| 16 ohms | 16 ohms | ||
| 7.2 amps | 7.2 amps | ||
| 827 watts | 827 watts | ||
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| + | What we didn't know at the time we measured the resistance is that Pin C is actually connected to about 8 line heaters shown in the schematic. The "FILL SOLENOID" | ||
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| [9/26/2019] Brother opened right-hand wall of cargo hold, exposing some of the plumbing for the cabin water supply. | [9/26/2019] Brother opened right-hand wall of cargo hold, exposing some of the plumbing for the cabin water supply. | ||
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| ==== Ribbon Heater ==== | ==== Ribbon Heater ==== | ||
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| According to other references, the unreadable part number was probably 3043-110-6-621. | According to other references, the unreadable part number was probably 3043-110-6-621. | ||